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Tori Amos
Shares The Beekeeper's Backstory
by Tina Whelski

The breezy, sensual
songs of Tori Amos’ ninth, and latest album, The Beekeeper
(Epic) ride the drift of an impending storm with honey sweet
vocals and a storyline that looks at mending the historical rift
that divides a woman’s sexual and spiritual self. In writing
the music Amos draws from both her own emotional impulses and
the rhythm of the world as she sees it at this moment. Days
before her Summer of Sin solo tour began Amos offered a
synopsis of The Beekeeper and shared her creative
process, which she also chronicles in a new book Tori Amos:
Piece by Piece, co-written with music journalist Ann Powers.
WOMANROCK: On The
Beekeeper you continue to satiate your worldly curiosity and
desire for self-discovery through song. How has your music
evolved since Little Earthquakes (13 years ago) and do you
feel you approach your instruments differently on The
Beekeeper?
TORI AMOS: When I can
listen to something a few years later, I’m able to be more
objective. When I’m in the thick of it, I’m making choices
based on what is right at the time and you have to trust your
instincts and you have to be clear on your vision. For instance,
I was listening to Choir Girl over the last couple of
days because I’ve been learning a few songs for the tour and I
hear that album really differently now than when it was
occurring (laughs). I’m able to step back and you have a sense
of detachment, which I think is really healthy—not when you’re
trying to finish it though. If you’re too detached, you’re not
passionate enough.
WOMANROCK: True.
As we grow we often don’t notice differences in ourselves
until we look back in retrospect.
AMOS: I like to use
the word “changing” because at each time that an album is
created, that reflex is where you are and just because some
people are more drawn to a “fiery you” and some people are more
drawn to an “intellectual you,” it doesn’t’ mean that they’re
both not valid. They’re both valid—all of the albums are—but
they come from a different place each time and I think that’s
what’s essential. I don’t think any different than a visual
artist; I don’t think you can say one installation is more
important than another installation. I think that it might have
had more impact on the masses at a time, but they’re all
responding to the changes that are occurring and you couldn’t
really super-impose one ten years later if you follow me. It
sometimes works because of the time at which it comes out.
WOMANROCK: Lyrically
you’ve commented that you write so that people can find
themselves in your music, not you? You focus on that a lot in
your new book too.
AMOS: In the book I
call it giving people a “backstage pass’ into the creative
process. When the songs come, sometimes they come in two-bar
phrases and sometimes they come more complete. What I am always
trying to do is to translate them in a way that people can
develop their own relationships with the songs. If you ‘re too
literal sometimes you anchor a song into space and time in a way
that it doesn’t allow it to take flight. I try to work more
with parables and prose as a songwriter than a style of lyric
writing where there’s no room for interpretation. I’ve always
been drawn to songs where word association and wordplay are part
of what that artist does. Sylvia Plath was always very much
like that and Anne Sexton. I was inspired by their work as
poets. I’m trying to translate what I call “essences.” They
don’t have arms or legs, but it’s more like light filaments.
They don’t look like us when they’re complete. They look more
like light structures. That’s really what it’s all about.
WOMANROCK: Giving
people such license for imagination in your work, are you
surprised sometimes when you hear how your songs are
interpreted?
AMOS: I find it
pretty intriguing because it’s not as if what it means to them
is wrong. It’s not. That’s their perspective and the songs
have always wanted people to have their own relationships with
them and I have my own relationship with them, so I’m able to
have my opinion.
WOMANROCK: I would
think that’s an interesting turn when you’ve created something
so personal and you put it out there to witness people cling to
it with a different attachment.
AMOS: This is where
you really have to let the songs go. You have to let them go
and make their friendships and make their enemies with people.
The songs are very capable of having their own lives (laughs).
They’ve made it very clear to me. It is a paradox where on one
hand you’re a co-creator with them and it feels as if there
are pieces of my own mosaic of life within them that I really don’t
have authority over. I have to allow them to go and be. The
authority that I do have is how they’re presented and I try and
work with them. A lot of times that has to do with what is
going on globally, what is going on in our world at this time
and that means the sound of it, the melody choices, and rhythmic
choices. Sometimes it’s very much about chronicling time and
the music is I would say a lot more involved than people give it
credit. A lot of times people talk about the lyrics because
it’s more tangible but the curds are very much in the music.
WOMANROCK: Applying
your process specifically to The Beekeeper, combined with
the sense of “urgency” you felt for this album, could you
discuss bringing it all together.
AMOS: Because the
right wing movement is not covert any more, but overt, I felt
that it was essential to go after certain ideologies and
teachings. One major one has been that a woman was responsible
for getting us all chucked out of paradise. Therefore the
garden allegory that The Beekeeper contained was core, no
pun intended, but I felt that we needed to create gardens that
represented different emotions that weren’t presided over by the
patriarchy. Therefore on the album “Tori” goes to God’s mother,
Sophia and asks her how to combat the violence and
destructiveness of this time and Sophia basically says, “Tori,
you must eat of the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge,
unlike my son suggested.” So Tori eats of the fruit and each
song is what she begins to have to look at in her own life.
Some of her relationships are very loving and some of them are
laced at the root with betrayal.
She begins to create this
pantheon of songs once she begins to become conscious and that’s
really at the root of The Beekeeper. The marriage of
sexuality and spirituality is also very much part of what’s
occurring here—a marriage within the being, not a marriage
between male and female outside the being. The honeybee
represented sacred sexuality in the ancient feminine mysteries
and because Christianity has taken such a hold, as a minister’s
daughter, I felt like we needed to go after this concept. I did
a lot of research reading the Gnostic Gospels written by
Elaine Pagels discovered in Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945. I also
read the gospel of Mary Magdalene, which was discovered in the
late 19th century and I began to realize that there
was another element to Christianity that was not included by
some of the early fathers of the “proper” church. Women and
their roles had been diminished and we had become subservient
and subjugated in the new church. I was concerned because of
some of the choices that were being made for leaders around the
world—religious as well as political—that I felt were proponents for the ideology of the patriarchy opposed to the
ideology of Jesus, which included women as equals.
If you read
the Gnostic Gospels you discover that Mary Magdalene was not a
prostitute, but a “prophet.” Maybe that was not “profitable” to
the fathers who were creating the church, because how do you get
power? Well the patriarchy’s view is you divide and conquer.
The greatest way to divide and conquer is within the self, so
when you divide sexuality and spirituality within a woman, she
is completely and absolutely divided, therefore, The
Beekeeper was very much about bringing these paradoxes
together into the garden, into one being. The garden’s
reflective of a woman’s body. That is the back-story.
Tina
Whelski is Editor of Womanrock.com. She is also a columnist and
feature writer for The Aquarian Weekly/East Coast Rocker
www.theaquarian.com
, Managing Editor of Starpolish.com
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, and contributes to The Hollywood Reporter
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, Modern Drummer
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Music Connection
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and Good Times magazine
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. Additionally she consults for Fearless Music TV
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